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You make total sense! I agree, that we as women are constantly excusing or passifying male anger and it is exhausting. Someone very close to me is in counselling for their blind male rage - borne out of a childhood raised as 'this is what masculinity is.' Men are usually more physically dominant than women so we fear physical violence in a way that I think most men don't (with women). I also agree - the whole 'tortured artist' thing is such bullshit - you don't need to be hammered/stoned out of your brain and wracked with melancholy to be interesting... Oh my god if I had a dollar for every man I wanted to 'fix' - or how many I allowed to treat me with disrespect because I knew how 'difficult' it was for them to love me/be kind to me. What I basically said was 'I am not worth being treated with respect.' I have also been awful in rows - I've peed in my husband's shoe I was so enraged. Thrown a used tampon at him. I mean - not pleasant things... In the case of Depp - he held come parties at a bar my husband ran years ago (pre-Amber) and he was the most gentle, generous, kind person - and my husband's bar had every A lister in there and you can tell a lot about a person how they treat waiting staff... So I guess my view on him was always a bit coloured. That said, I agree that the persona he has cultivated shouldn't excuse his behaviour - and their toxic relationship makes neither look good. I think my issue with Amber, is because I counsel rape survivors - and come from a stance there of believing everyone who uses the service. I see JUST how hard it is to bring a conviction - I see just how hard it is for women to believed - and so I have - how to put this correctly.... I just really struggle when I think someone is using a platform or piggy backing on a movement, for their own gains - rather than because they truly are a victim/survivor. As I write this I'm wondering why I believe him more than her... But agree completely that neither look stable! It's just a really interesting discussion. Love what you write Monica - love all the self-reflection and the questioning of what we accept. Being Irish I also come from a place that very much favours the man - the idea women should 'serve.' As a child I served dinner and cleared plates for the men in the family - who did fuck all. Now I am married to someone who does all the cooking and we are equal in every way. Anyway, thanks for such a great thought provoking post. Loved it.

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I had a boss (who was an angry out of control drunk that would not leave me alone after he was lit) who got off on making the women in his team cry and would literally bang a gong when he was successful. He could never make me cry. I haven't worked for him for over 16 years and I daily scan the paper hoping to see a sexual harassment suit against that company that I could attest to, or an obituary. I'd greet either with enthusiasm.

I'm over unexceptional men and their entitlement. Trump brought those mucksuckers back to the surface like a massive school of Asian carp. I try not to seethe with rage over it... but it's hard. I've socked many dudes in the face and it doesn't do anything but give me the momentary high of adrenaline and self satisfaction when I cackle "you got hit by a girl" at them, to lead into shame and powerlessness. I fell for it again.

So yep. Walk away. Always walk away.

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